i was representing the whole city. you want to be helpful, you want to be effective, you want to represent everybody's point of view. that's what pope francis is doing. >> but there is, to me, at least, there is an aspect of politics to this. and specifically if you look at arngentin argentina, a south american country that under the kirchner, the husband and wife team that led the country, argentina moved to the left politically. in the time that they were moving to the left, before he became pope, really one of the leading political opposition figures in argentina, we played some of the clips from it, was the pope. have you noticed a change in him since he's become pope? >> i think there is a difference between him opposing the gay marriage bill in argentina, and the comments he made about gay people you should accept them, love them. but that's kind of a typical conservative line. we are opposed to gay marriage, it is the work of the devil, but gay people are humans and we should spread the love of the gospel to the